eCigarette used as Asthmanefrin delivery system
First, the disclaimer: this is not how either product was intended to be used. I take no responsibility if you try this and have negative results. You should always follow the directions on the package, from a doctor, or from another competent medical professional (not me). This is just an experiment in progress - I have no idea what dosages this method produces, etc. There may be other dangers associated with this method - ie "Does heating the Asthmanefrin cause unwanted contaminants?" I'm not a scientist and have no equipment to test for other hidden dangers - so don't follow this guide. It is for informational purposes only.
After Asthmanefrin was released as a "replacement" for Primatene inhalers, reviews of the accompanying "portable" nebulizer started coming in - it was hard to use, hard to transport, and cost twice the initial estimate for a stater kit. The Asthmanefrin product was still epinephrine and had promise. One of the users on the "Bring Back My Primatene® Mist" Facebook group, George Cox, experimented with using an ecigarette atomizer to deliver the Asthmanefrin solution.
The world of vaping ("smoking" an ecigarette) is still not mainstream and can be even more alien and overwhelming to a nonsmoker. There are a lot of sites that cover those areas into as much depth as you're interested in going. (this is a really good starter http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ ). This is a guide to the way I'm currently using a spare ecigarette setup instead of an inhaler or nebulizer.
Here's a picture of my current setup:
1. JoyE eGo battery
2. 510 atomizer - LR (low resistance)
3. "Drip Tip" - aka the mouthpiece
4. USB eGo charger
All of the above was purchased at liberty-flights.com
Batteries: http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=41
Another brand of Batteries (just as good from my experience): http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=58
Atomizers: http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=44
Drip Tips: http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=124
Charger: http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=35
If you use Discount Code october20, you get 20% off the price
There are a lot of online retailers that sell the same products, but LF is one I've used multiple times over the past 2 years and they've always been fast and the lowest price I've found.
The operation is fairly simple:
Charge the battery - it screws onto the charger and the charger plugs into a regular USB port on a computer. If you don't have a computer, most electronics stores and even walmarts sell a USB wall outlet adapter.
Then screw the atomizer to the battery:
And the drip tip goes on the atomizer
Here's a bottle of eliquid I use that contains nicotine. If you're not a smoker, you can get it with 0 nicotine content.
I also have a small 5 or 6 mL dropper bottle I use to carry the nicotine liquid to make it more portable. You can pick them up from a lot of online retailers or buy a couple from LF. You may even be able to find them at WalMart in the pharmacy section.
Empty the vial of Asthmanefrin into the empty 5-6 mL dropper bottle
I like to mix about 3-6 drops of nictotine ejuice (either vegetable glycerine or propylene glycol) to help thicken the liquid and help it vaporize a little better. You can get the unflavored base fairly cheaply http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=71
Put 2-3 drops of the resulting mixture directly on the atomizer (remove the drip tip)
Place the drip tip back on the end and use it like you would a regular ecigarette - Push the button for about 2 seconds to let the atomizer heat up, then, while still pressing the button, take a long slow draw through the ecigarette and hold it in your lungs as long as comfortable.
The 'relief' isn't instantaneous. For me, it takes 30-60 seconds to feel the effects. The first time I tried this, I got too much epinephrine and felt jittery for a while.
Also, be aware: the warnings on the Asthmanefrin package state "Do not use this product if it is brown in color or cloudy. Also, this product should not be used if color is pinkish or darker than slightly yellow or if it contains a precipitate."
Don't mix up more than one unit of Asthmanefrin in your dropper vial at a time - it will go bad after 24-48 hours.
If it looks like this, don't use it:
Hope this helps clear up some confusion and Good luck.
Use the info at you own risk. Don't try this at home. Ask your parents permission before calling. Consult a doctor if it lasts for more than four hours. You must be this tall to ride. etc.
21 Comments:
tried this for myself before reading your blog. seemed to ẅork well enough. thanks
7:32 PM
Do you put the mixture in the regular tank or just a few drops at a time on the wick? I put the mixture in the tank and within 2 hours it was dark, but I figured it was from the heat. Any suggestions would be great!
8:19 PM
Sounds like it will work. I've never smoked a cigarette or e-cig in my life and I'm 50 but I'm desperate to try it cause the EZ-Breathe gadget sucks.
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5:55 AM
I posted something else about this idea some months ago. Finding this was a great help. Shared it on facebook. We have to get the meds makers onboard. It'd be a huge travesty if this never goes mainstream with pre-mixed vials for the e-cig style devices. We hospital biomed eng types have to get this done. (even retired ones like me). I can't imagine it not kicking ass on my old Samsung with that tubing and the 4 plastic piece business end.
4:04 PM
Uh sorry My "portable nebulizer" is that Philips /Respironics MiniElite (goes against my political bent) that shows up in many of those Med for Home type commercials, I got it 2 years ago after sinus surgery. I use those 3 1/2" polyethylene like vials of albuterol sulfate solution in strips of 5 packed 5 strips to a box. Not sure why I thought Samsung.
6:31 PM
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7:21 AM
The old nebulizer and the asthmanefrine refills work but only puff once maybe twice or you'll get jittery
10:45 PM
I usually used ecigarette when I am outside of my house to protect the health of my children.
9:20 PM
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9:07 AM
Thank you SO much for this information. I never would've thought of this. I've been vaping for a little over two years & also been thru several of the EZ Breathe Atomizers because they're such junk. When vaping I normally don't use tanks anymore unless I'm driving & then it's a sub-ohm tank so it vaporizers at higher wattages (60w+) than the pen style ego batteries. I drip when I vape using an RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer). I went to get another EZ Breathe today but found the store not longer carries them but they do still carry the Asthmafrin refills. I have plenty of flavored eliquid( with nicotine) but I also have a full bottle of plain VG (vegetable glycerin) so instead of trying to clean & get working one of the EZ Breathe Attys I still have, I'm going to use a clean RDA, make a new coil, mix the refill with a few drops of the VG (or heck I may just use some of my flavored ejuice) & try that. This may be a stupid question but I'm unsure if I should wick the coil like I normally would when vaping? Or just drip a drop at a time on the coil? I'm assuming what is being suggested in this blog is using the pen style ego atomizers & battery, which uses a small coil & a bit of silica wick inside.. What's funny & ironic about this actually working is, when I vape ejuice that is high VG ratio, I notice my wheezing & asthma symptoms act up lol. Anyways, once again, thank you so much for this post!
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Do you know what wattage and ohm level works the best to do this?
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